Do you have a concept or an idea for a book but no idea how to begin your outline? Kathi Lipp is back with her editor, Kathleen Kerr, to discuss the key elements of outlining and how to write your own.

In this episode, you’ll learn:

  • How they outlined Kathi’s current book.
  • The steps you can take to outline a trade book.
  • What to do if you get stuck with your outline.

Listen in and learn everything you need to know to build an outline, find your direction, and uncover your story.

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Meet Your Hosts

Kathi Lipp

Kathi Lipp

Author, Speaker, Writing at the Red House Creator and CEO

Kathi Lipp is the host of the Clutter Free Academy podcast, the Writing at the Red House podcast, and the bestselling author of The Husband Project, Clutter Free, Ready for Anything, and An Abundant Place. She and her husband, Roger, live in the mountains of northern California, where they run the Red House Writing Retreats.

Over the past 10 years, Kathi has helped hundreds of people increase their platform through teaching and coaching. She is a frequent teacher at writer’s conferences and has helped countless authors and speakers find their audiences.

Kathi’s desire to help fellow speakers and authors avoid the mistakes she made, increase their confidence, and be the person God made them to be inspired her creation of Communicator Academy. Her newest adventure is The Red House, where she offers writer’s retreats and Writers in Residence events. Learn more about the Red House at

Kathleen Kerr

Kathleen Kerr


Kathleen Kerr is an acquisitions editor at Harvest House Publishers, working with debut, bestselling, and award-winning authors, and she is a frequent speaker at conferences around the country. Previously, she was an acquisitions editor at Zondervan Publishing House. She has a passion for cultivating an author’s message, finding new voices, and inviting readers into a deeper walk with Christ. Kathleen lives with her husband and daughters in the Pacific Northwest, where she can often be found hiking, writing, and creating chaos in the kitchen.

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